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Hostess Workers Getting Hosed Again


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After months of coercive threats, Hostess Brands is filing for bankruptcy for the second time in less than a decade. Hostess has assets galore- 40 odd bakeries with replacement values of $10,000,000 and up, around 400 depots and thrift stores on valuable retail turf that are easily worth at least a million apiece, 10,000 smaller trucks, 1000 big trucks, and 2000 semitrailers worth a few hundred million. Even the odds and ends of the asset inventory are huge- like around a hundred thousand shipping "racks" worth several hundred dollars each and god only knows how many baking pans and such.

Biggest losers in this corporate shakedown are the workers- Hostess owes damn near a billion to the bakers pension fund alone, and there's a bunch of other pension funds Hostess has stiffed as well. These are hard working folks- less than a hundred Bakers can bake enough bread to feed several million mouths, and it takes only another hundred or so Teamsters to deliver it.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/1 ... upt-(Again),-Stiffs-Workers-For-a-Billion

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Pension related.......


'Retirement Heist'



http://www.npr.org/2011/09/29/140344871 ... d-pensions

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I knew this was what this was about...

when will rank and file con figure out they are being attacked, viciously, by the very people they are voting for

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After months of coercive threats, Hostess Brands is filing for bankruptcy for the second time in less than a decade. Hostess has assets galore- 40 odd bakeries with replacement values of $10,000,000 and up, around 400 depots and thrift stores on valuable retail turf that are easily worth at least a million apiece, 10,000 smaller trucks, 1000 big trucks, and 2000 semitrailers worth a few hundred million. Even the odds and ends of the asset inventory are huge- like around a hundred thousand shipping "racks" worth several hundred dollars each and god only knows how many baking pans and such.

Biggest losers in this corporate shakedown are the workers- Hostess owes damn near a billion to the bakers pension fund alone, and there's a bunch of other pension funds Hostess has stiffed as well. These are hard working folks- less than a hundred Bakers can bake enough bread to feed several million mouths, and it takes only another hundred or so Teamsters to deliver it.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/1 ... upt-(Again),-Stiffs-Workers-For-a-Billion



Hey, I have no doubts the workers are getting the shaft, but there certainly is a shit load of hyperbole and bullshit in the initial paragraph about the supposed value of the store sites and vehicles and equipment. The truth is usually plenty good enough, thanks. Pure bullshit like the figures outlined above should be left to the assholes who want to try and explain how taking away pension funds and laying off workers is GOOD for the workers.



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'Retirement Heist'



http://www.npr.org/2011/09/29/140344871 ... d-pensions

I posted about this book 2 months ago. Please read it people! This is one of the ways that the corporate raiders like Baynes put 10's of millions of dollars in their pockets while bankrupting companies after looting their pension funds. Another way the 1% win at the 99% expense. This also happens with retiree health benefits. All the while boosting exec retirement awards.



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After months of coercive threats, Hostess Brands is filing for bankruptcy for the second time in less than a decade. Hostess has assets galore- 40 odd bakeries with replacement values of $10,000,000 and up, around 400 depots and thrift stores on valuable retail turf that are easily worth at least a million apiece, 10,000 smaller trucks, 1000 big trucks, and 2000 semitrailers worth a few hundred million. Even the odds and ends of the asset inventory are huge- like around a hundred thousand shipping "racks" worth several hundred dollars each and god only knows how many baking pans and such.

Biggest losers in this corporate shakedown are the workers- Hostess owes damn near a billion to the bakers pension fund alone, and there's a bunch of other pension funds Hostess has stiffed as well. These are hard working folks- less than a hundred Bakers can bake enough bread to feed several million mouths, and it takes only another hundred or so Teamsters to deliver it.

Some background...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/1 ... upt-(Again),-Stiffs-Workers-For-a-Billion



Hey, I have no doubts the workers are getting the shaft, but there certainly is a shit load of hyperbole and bullshit in the initial paragraph about the supposed value of the store sites and vehicles and equipment. The truth is usually plenty good enough, thanks. Pure bullshit like the figures outlined above should be left to the assholes who want to try and explain how taking away pension funds and laying off workers is GOOD for the workers.


I got a good laugh about it Bushwa. I was at a liquidation auction for a large bakery operation, it was Volmers Bakery in Denver about 25 years ago, it was a bakery that had about a 600 employees.

40 odd bakeries with replacement values of $10,000,000; right, old worn to the woof specialized machinery, so large that almost no other baking company in America can use it, real value at best 1 cent per pound, most of it is going to a scrap yard. The land and buildings would be worth more without the buildings.

Around 400 depots and thrift stores on valuable retail turf; wrong completely wrong, they're located at the cheapest and most run down locations imaginable, in old has been warehouse and retail buildings, and a lot of them are rented not owned.

10,000 smaller trucks, 1000 big trucks, and 2000 semitrailers; wrong an old worn out used fleet. Trucks and step vans that need to be repainted to be use, because Hostess painted advertisements and logos all over them. A huge fleet of old trucks going on the market all at once goes cheep.

And these last two items brought on a belly laugh!

Like around a hundred thousand shipping "racks" worth several hundred dollars each; those racks and the plastic trays that fit them are located here and there in the backrooms of supermarkets just about everywhere. Write them off because they're gone.

And god only knows how many baking pans and such; Baking trays they are not pans, made to be filled, proofed, baked, and handled by an automated mill baking line.

Most of them won't even fit into the average bakery ovens. A specialized custom machine larger than most gymnasiums was what they were made for. The specialized machine and the pans that go with it are scrap metal, after the expense of dismantling it all, and hauling it away.

I saw a baking line like these, and all that went with it at Volmers Bakery in Denver sold for one dollar. The scrap dealer stopped the auctioneer and said, "one dollar." no one else made a bid, so it was sold for one dollar.

There were several huge ovens at that auction where the scrap dealers stopped the auctioneer and turned it around, it wasn't how much it would bring, it was how much the scrap dealer would be paid to dismantle them and haul the scrap, fire bricks, and debris away.

The Hostess bakery operation was old rundown and worn out. For years they've had little or no money to spend to upgrade and modernize.



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I got a good laugh about it Bushwa. I was at a liquidation auction for a large bakery operation, it was Volmers Bakery in Denver about 25 years ago, it was a bakery that had about a 600 employees.

40 odd bakeries with replacement values of $10,000,000; right, old worn to the woof specialized machinery, so large that almost no other baking company in America can use it, real value at best 1 cent per pound, most of it is going to a scrap yard. The land and buildings would be worth more without the buildings.



While I agree with that analysis of the reality of the situation I think we have to keep in mind the sentiment this frustrated writer is trying to convey which I interpret as "a corporation has sucked the life out of another business and the workers are left holding the empty bag", which of course is all too common ...............


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Biggest losers in this corporate shakedown are the workers- Hostess owes damn near a billion to the bakers pension fund alone, and there's a bunch of other pension funds Hostess has stiffed as well.

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Yikes! Twinkie maker execs gave themselves huge raises, then went bankrupt




The looting of Hostess brands by its top executives is an object lesson in how CEO pay harms the 99 percent and kills the U.S. economy.

Dow Jones had the scoop yesterday: The troubled Twinkie maker's executives gave themselves big raises before seeking bankruptcy protection. Reports the news service;


Unsecured creditors suspect that Hostess Brands Inc. may have "manipulated" its executives' pay--sending its former chief executive's salary, in particular, skyrocketing- in the months leading up to its Chapter 11 filing, in an effort to dodge the Bankruptcy Code's compensation requirements, according to a redacted court filing reviewed by Dow Jones.

The official committee representing Hostess's unsecured creditors wants to launch a formal investigation in the bankruptcy case, hoping to dig deeper into the bakery company's senior executive compensation. The information the group has already gathered suggests "the possibility" that the company converted a chunk of its top executives' pay from performance-based bonuses to guaranteed salary, "at least in part to sidestep" rules designed to ensure that companies in bankruptcy aren't enticing their employees to stay on board with the promise of cash.



As Teamsters General Secretary-Treasurer Ken Hall said,


The Dow Jones article suggests that management broke the law, looted the company and then told workers to suck it up and sacrifice.

If this is true, Hostess executives have violated their agreement with the Teamsters that all parties, including management, would share equally in concessions that would help keep this company alive.

It would be outrageous for the board of directors, which included secured lenders, to approve executive salary increases of up to 300 percent for a company that has filed for bankruptcy twice in four years.


CEOs are looting their corporations at the expense of innovation, trainng and employment, writes William Lazonick, the director of the UMass Center for Industrial Competitiveness.


In other words, they're destroying the US economy.



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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/0 ... t-bankrupt

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