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Cedar oil pest control


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GripesOfWrath wrote:
Hey Yosmite Sam!

It kills the little buggers! Just like it does fleas and ticks.

And, again, while pure cedar oil can be really strong, and potentially toxic, when it's dilute, it still kills them, but won't harm you or your pet(s).

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I suppose so, they're kind of like ticks, house ticks. :)

Back on page two creativegal posted a warning that this product wouldn't be safe for pets if your pets are birds.

Would you know more about that?

I have lots of bird pets, a flock of about a dozen black ravens who share my scraps, wild turkeys who overrun the yard and get in the shed if I leave the door open, must be 100 hummingbirds who devour whole sacks of sugar, and those quail who think my car is a big blue thrashing machine. There is that owl who whoo's at night, the brood nest of golden eagles in the big blue oak below the house, and that buzzard pair who just love to roost on that barren sugar pine snag up on the ridge.

I like to keep all my bird pets outside, they like it that way too. :)



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CAUTION with cedar products!
While cedar is generally not toxic to dogs and cats when used for flea control, cedar aroma IS toxic to BIRDS. As most of us animal lovers have more than just a cat or dog and many of us have birds too I cringe a bit when I hear Randi give the Cedarcide commercial. Most us who have raised birds like finches, canaries, budgies, parrots etc. know about the danger of cedar, but casual folks with just a parakeet or two probably won't come across this info. I hope this can help to spread the word to keep cedar and birds WAY SEPARATE.
Rock on, fellow animal-loving, tree-hugging, socialist-leaning feminists!



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LilaTheGreat wrote:
I use cedar chips in my garden to help keep insects out. It doesn't work 100% but it does do a good job.
As for fleas and ticks on the dogs...
It sounds like cedarcide is some good stuff and it is, but hold your horses before you purchase from cedarcide because there are others who sell cedar oil products for a lower price.

Cedarcide wants BEST YET NATURAL FLEA KILLER SPRAY QUART $29.95
http://www.cedarcidestore.com/catalog/i ... 094558.htm

or buy the oil itself for less
and make your own.

Pest Repellent Recipe

20 oz. warm water
1/2 oz. of liquid ivory soap
4 oz. 100% pure cedarwood oil

Mix well in a spray bottle and test in a hidden area first before applying liberally.



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It says specifically on the site that gives this recipe to NOT use it on cats, which is what I need it for. Anyone thinking that it's alright to do that, I hope sees this.



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floo wrote:
It says specifically on the site that gives this recipe to NOT use it on cats, which is what I need it for. Anyone thinking that it's alright to do that, I hope sees this.


I use a mix of the following on my cat.

citronella oil,
sage, eucalyptus,
yellowdock,fennel,
rosemary, lemongrass,
clove & grapefriut extract,
and the following oils:
eucalypyus,catnip,garlic,

& cedarwood

My cat only complains about the 'hiss' noise created by the sprayer!

But Cedarcide has some stuff specifically for CATS!
"Use BEST YET for flea control on dogs, cats and horses."
Go check it out at: http://www.cedarcidestore.com/catalog/item/3571008/5094558.htm



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:lol: Golly, Lila, if I met your cat, I wouldn't know what to do...pet her or stew her? :)

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:lol: Golly, Lila, if I met your cat, I wouldn't know what to do...pet her or stew her? :)

:lol: :lol: :lol: I put BASIL in my stewed cat.



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My dog has been chewing around the base of his tail for the last 2 days and I'm wondering what's going on.

I want to support Randi so I checked the Pet Cedarside and it's a big jug for 29.95 and so is the Spray Quart.

I'll see how he is today and I may buy one of these..................


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My dog has been chewing around the base of his tail for the last 2 days and I'm wondering what's going on.

I want to support Randi so I checked the Pet Cedarside and it's a big jug for 29.95 and so is the Spray Quart.

I'll see how he is today and I may buy one of these..................


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Before I'd assume that it was bugs and spraying the dog with toxic oil I'd check and empty the dogs anal glands.

That's the dog chews at the base of the tale symptom. fleas can cause it too, but the anal glands need to be looked at. The anal gland fluid needs to be brown and liquid, If there's puss and blood the gland is infected. I wet the area with warm water on a wash cloth re dipping the cloth into the warm water until I have not only made the area wet, I've made it warm. Then I do what is shown in this video.

When you see a dog do the rump drag across the ground that's also the time to inspect and clear the glands. And look for worms and fleas as well. But don't forget the glands and assume fleas or worms. These glands are frequently blocked impacted and infected.

It's sort of like milking a cow. Oh, and I wear the disposable rubber gloves because that gland juice is the smell the dog leaves on fire hydrants and such. It's rank and in pure, on the hand, it will linger through several hand washings, for several hours. Rubber gloves keep it off the skin.


http://www.ehow.com/video_2275318_express-dog_s-anal-gland.html


When we move dogs into houses to live with us, we teach them to not empty their glands during puppy training for indoor toilet matters. This causes the blockage of what is a natural matter, and causes this kind of impaction. It's our fault.

Once the infection and impaction is cleared up, the wetting and hot water isn't needed, stripping the glands is a matter of putting on gloves and using a paper towel and 30 seconds once a month.

Doing it before bathing a dog, if you do that, is the best time. I don't bath a dog or cat unless there is a reason to do so, medical or stench from rolling in dead things.



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I looked it up, the LDL-50 for pure ceder oil is 5 grams per kilogram. LDL-50 means it kills half of the creatures that get a dose of that size.

That cute while dog looks to be about a kilogram, so 5 grams of the oil would be a lethal dose for 50% of cute white dogs. I would not put a lethal oil where a dog is licking or chewing. Basically 1 teaspoon = 5ml = 5 grams.



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RoyPDX wrote:
I wonder if the oil contains toxins.

When I was in the furniture business, we learned that workers in factories that work with aromatic cedar have to be rotated out regularly...it's not harmful in a closet or a chest but to apply it directly in a concentrated form makes me wonder.



i looked up this type of cedar product. CAT OWNERS BEWARE!! i read testimony from people who are vetenarians and owners...this product, cedar bug repellant is VERY DANGEROUS AND DEADLY for cats. it appears dogs don't have the same type of issues with this type of product and it is safe for them. maybe that is why they don't talk about other animals other than dogs.

i thought i would get it to help prevent issues, but i have cats and have found nothing but red flags about using this stuff with cats.

links:
http://davesgarden.com/products/gwd/c/6323/
http://www.thelavendercat.com


just my humble two cents.

also please read some reviews. sounds like they aren't very consistant with their shipping costs and it is quite expensive to ship. you may want to check your local pet stores. and check with your vets before you use this.

nothing against Randi or other shows that promote this, but if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. buyer beware.

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Many essential/natural oils are toxic to cats including:
From messybeast.com (I also found similar information on many other sites.)

Essential oils which contain phenols are particularly toxic to cats and cause liver damage. These include Oregano, Thyme, Eucalyptus, Clove, Cinnamon, Bay Leaf, Parsley and Savory

Essential oils which contain ketones cause neurological symptoms. These include: Cedar Leaf*, Sage*, Hyssop*, Cyprus*, Lavender, Eucalyptus, Mint ,Caraway*, Citronella ,Clove*, Ginger*, Chamomile, Thyme and Rosemary (those marked * give particular cause for concern).

Cedar Oil, also marketed as a flea treatment, is also highly toxic to cats. It has been found to be toxic orally, when absorbed through the skin and an irritant if the fumes are inhaled (if the fumes are concentrated enough it may be absorbed through the lining of the lungs in toxic quantities). It is irresponsibly marketed by Cedarcide as safe for pets, but COSHH and toxicology data indicates it is toxic. Claims supporting Cedarcide are highly biased and were written for dog treatments (dogs have very different and more efficient liver function than cats). They are advertising claims, not scientific claims and perpetuate the misconception that natural means "safe".

I was really hoping to use this product, but I will try and find something else. One of my cats became deathly ill 4 months ago after using Advantage, he is still not completely well.



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Many essential/natural oils are toxic to cats...



You make several assertions of fact here, and you need to support them with links. Please see Rule # 7 within the "Rules of the RRMB"

Thanks in advance for the information, and for your cooperation.

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According to Cedarcide's vet, it is a specific cedar oil that is toxic to cats, not the Red Texas Cedar that they use in their products. I can testify that Cedarcide is safe on cats and kittens, I spray down my 12 week old kitten every day and he's extremely healthy.

Now if I could just catch those other cats...........

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Please stop touting Cedarcide for cats. The essential oils are actually extremely poisonous to them, they cannot process them. Dogs are ok, and humans as well. But cats lack the essential ability to clear the toxic element in the essential oils out of their system, and it can prove fatal. This information is readily available online, information from actual vets. Please save the life of a loved one and stop the poisoning of cats from exposure to essential oils. Remember many poisons are "natural". Natural does not mean "safe".

Thank you.



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