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Rick Scott: We Don't Need No Stinking Liberal Arts


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Who needs the liberal arts? At a time when unemployment in the US is nearing ten percent, the last thing we need is more English majors, more creative-humanities-philosophizing-artsy types, or so Governor Rick Scott of Florida said in a Monday radio interview with a right-wing radio host. Students need education “in areas where they can get jobs,” in the so-called STEM disciplines because, says Scott:

“You know, we don’t need a lot more anthropologists in the state. It’s a great degree if people want to get it, but we don’t need them here. I want to spend our dollars giving people science, technology, engineering, math degrees. That’s what our kids need to focus all their time and attention on. Those type of degrees. So when they get out of school, they can get a job.”

In another interview with the Sarasota Herald-Tribune, Scott spoke about shifting funding at Florida’s public universities to the STEM areas, at the expense of academic disciplines in the humanities and social sciences. Again, he justified his proposal on the basis that students in STEM fields get jobs after graduating:

“If I’m going to take money from a citizen to put into education then I’m going to take that money to create jobs. So I want that money to go to degrees where people can get jobs in this state.”

“Is it a vital interest of the state to have more anthropologists? I don’t think so.”

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Even more, study in the liberal arts has long, and some might say infamously, been associated with notions such as “the unexamined life is not worth living” and “questioning authority.” A liberal arts education trains students to ask status-quo shaking questions like “why is it that the winners of wars and conquests tend to write history?” and “if slaves possibly comprised as much as 25 to 40 percent of the population of ancient Rome, why do we know so little about their lives?”

Says Mother Jones:

As opposed to conservative-friendly disciplines like economics and business management, liberal arts produce more culturally aware and progressive citizens, inclined to challenge ossified social conventions and injustices. Eliminate cultural and social sciences from public colleges, and you’ll ultimately produce fewer community organizers, poets, and critics; you’ll probably churn out more Rotarians, Junior Leaguers, and Republican donors.

Of course we need accountants, IT specialists and engineers. But in this age when we value innovation and creating new technologies and new answers to old problem, don’t we need just as much to teach students to “think differently”?

Wasn’t it a calligraphy course that Steve Jobs audited at a certain liberal arts college in Oregon that was one of the inspirations behind the Macintosh’s graphic interface?

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The ghoulish governor, Florida's favorite son, Rick Scott is in the news again. This time he's bashing anthropology and showcasing his profound ignorance of culture and society. "If I'm going to take money from a citizen to put into education then I'm going to take money to create jobs," Scott said earlier this week. "So I want the money to go to a degree where people can get jobs in this state. Is it a vital interest of the state to have more anthropologists? I don't think so." Later in the interview Scott, whose daughter majored in anthropology at the College of William and Mary, said: "It's a great degree if people want to get it. But we don't need them here."

As you might expect, these comments triggered a torrent of critical commentary from anthropologists and others in the academy. Virginia Dominguez, the president of the American Anthropological Association called Scott's comments "shortsighted" and "unfortunate" and requested a meeting with the governor so that he might be better informed abut the usefulness of anthropology. Rachel Newcomb, who teaches anthropology in Florida, has written about the positive social and economic impact of anthropology in Florida. She also discussed -- quite powerfully -- the perils of technocratic culture and how universities in China and India are attempting to incorporate anthropology and other liberal arts disciplines into their rather sterile curricula -- all to train technologically informed students in critical and creative thinking. In a Mother Jones article about Governor Scott and anthropology, Adam Weinstein suggests that eliminating programs in anthropology and psychology and would bring a political bonus for Governor Scott. He says that Scott may be out to eliminate anthropology and the liberal arts:

As opposed to conservative-friendly disciplines like economics and business management, liberal arts produce more culturally aware and progressive citizens, inclined to challenge ossified social conventions and injustices. Eliminate cultural an social sciences from public colleges, and you'll ultimately produce fewer community organizers, poets and critics; you'll probably church out more Rotarians, Junior Leaguers, and Republican donors.

Somehow I don't think that this waterfall of critical commentary will impress Florida's increasingly unpopular Tea Party Governor. Even if he agreed to meet with officials from the American Anthropological Association, which is highly doubtful, their statements of fact would not convince him to change his mind. I'm not sure he cares what universities in China and India are doing to incorporate anthropology and other liberal arts disciplines into their curricula. Although he might not like the gist of the Adam Weinstein's piece in Mother Jones, he probably won't read it. If he did, he wouldn't give Weinstein's comments a second thought.

Governor Scott is an ideologue completely isolated from thoughts that fall beyond the boundaries of his disturbingly narrow view of the world. He makes harsh comments about anthropology and the liberal arts because he knows that they tap into the long-flowing steam of American populism. He knows that Americans pride themselves as a "can do" people. When there is a problem, real Americans find common sense solutions. Fancy theories only get in the way of real results. Eggheads and pointy-headed intellectuals are effete. If they manage do the job, they don't do it well. We don't need our children studying superfluous subjects like anthropology, psychology, music and philosophy.

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My sense is that the notion of the limited good should note be restricted to the Mexican peasants that Foster so ably described. Belief in the limited good has long been part of mainstream American society, which means that politicians like Rick Scott have repeatedly tapped into these sentiments for political gain. My students, many of whom come from families of modest means, feel the pressure of the limited good. Their parents want them to major in business, accounting, or computer science -- degrees that will lead to good well-paying jobs. Who can fault them for wanting what's best for their kids. And yet many of my students, who have little or no interest in accounting, end up learning how to do audits instead of following their passion into anthropology, history or psychology.

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If we eliminate the liberal arts and humanities from public university curricula, we will produce a generation of uncritical technocrats who will have lost their sense of wonder, their feeling of intellectual passion and their capacity to dream about life beyond the boundaries of the limited good. In such a passionless and unimaginative space, we will lose our capacity to think, grow and reconfigure a rapidly changing world.

Is that what you want Governor Scott? Is that what you want for your daughter and your grandchildren?

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Rick Scott wrote:
"You know, we don’t need a lot more anthropologists in the state. It’s a great degree if people want to get it, but we don’t need them here. I want to spend our dollars giving people science, technology, engineering, math degrees. That’s what our kids need to focus all their time and attention on. Those type of degrees. So when they get out of school, they can get a job."

*smh*

Such unbelievably ignorant and dangerous comments.



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Well, as you well know, it's not like a 'pure' mathematics degree is a path to instant employment, either, nor are people with degrees in theoretical physics being guaranteed jobs. A lot of fields of engineering are in demand, but some engineering fields have low employment prospects. It's not like a "STEM" degree is a get a job right out of school free card. Technology fields - well, it depends, Mr. Scott should at least be honest that a lot of computer science and other tech jobs are also starting to be outsourced to India and elsewhere.

Of course, I'll be the first to admit employment prospects in the liberal arts, social sciences, and humanities are worse, but I see that as a problem relating to larger societal issue: how as a society we fail to take many kinds of talents and abilities and put them to good use, because we have a narrow vision of what kinds of talents are "economically viable" or "useful" (i.e. profitable, especially on the short term).

To put things in terms perhaps even Mr. Scott would understand, I could show him the anthropologists that are working for Intel Corporation, on human-computer interface design. Helping them increase their corporate profits. Perhaps the governor may not grok anything else, but I hope he can see the "value" there.

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Well, as you well know, it's not like a 'pure' mathematics degree is a path to instant employment, either, nor are people with degrees in theoretical physics being guaranteed jobs. A lot of fields of engineering are in demand, but some engineering fields have low employment prospects. It's not like a "STEM" degree is a get a job right out of school free card. Technology fields - well, it depends, Mr. Scott should at least be honest that a lot of computer science and other tech jobs are also starting to be outsourced to India and elsewhere.

Indeed, the path to instant employment seems to be nonexistent, at least for most people.

And what happens when too many people are trained in these supposedly job-generating fields? In places like China there are too many people trained in the hard sciences and not enough jobs to go around.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_to_the_bottom

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