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i'm going to get an iphone. i should wait until june to get the 5

but i may just get the 4s now instead

i dunno but the 5 does seem worth waiting for

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The iPhone 4S doesn't really add much to the original iPhone 4. It's still not "4G" (despite the phone's version number). All it does is add Siri, which has already led to all kinds of silly webpages that remind me of Stupid Newton Poetry.
http://shitsirisays.com/

I would wait for the 5, which will appear to be Apple's first 4G (network) compatible phone, although its competitors have had such phones out for a long time. The 4S is not a real upgrade to the 4, Siri was actually available as a separate downloadable app for the 4 already ... until Apple bought the software and made it their IP.

BTW, I wish you could find a smartphone not made by Asian slaves. I really do. Apple may suck, but there's nobody in the tech industry that's better. The whole industry is doing the same shit.

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All true of course but what high tech company doesn't behave the very same way? Steve Jobs just was a bit more arrogant about it. Heh. At least he didn't try to hide it.

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so you would wait for 5 to get 4G?

where i live 4g will happen when I grow wings, so other than that, what other reasons

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Who knows? There are dozens of Apple rumors sites, because Apple (like most tech companies) is notoriously reticent about discussing anything about future, upcoming products, including their eventual release date.

There are dozens of rumors about the iPhone 5. It will be 3D! It will teleport you to your destination! As always, some are unhinged from reality and are based on peoples' fantasies or desires, others may be more realistic. :D The only thing just about all the rumors sites agree on is it will be Apple's first 4G phone. Note that it is significant they are no longer just partnering with AT & T anymore, but also let you use the phone with Sprint and Verizon.

Probably one reason they did this (other than consumers demanding choice and options and getting sick of AT & T's problems) is AT & T is probably still way behind in building a next-gen 4G network, and Sprint & Verizon are much further ahead.

Knock yourself out, this site does nothing but collect & collate iPhone 5 rumors.
http://www.iphone5rumor.net/
Or just read MacRumors, etc.

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the 3g for internet is very slow...i dont use the iphone on the fly on the net enough for it to matter, yet, but when I am on vacation or out of town I plan to and that slow speed will suck

the overall life we live today compared to when I was a kid, wow

i have told this story before, when I was about 12 yrs old, maybe 10, my neighbor friends mom was a professor at the local State University, mid 60's, one night (i was ALWAYS at their house on friday and sat nights) before we fired up Star Trek, she brought in this suitcase sized device that she called a "calculator" i will never forget it, it was the property of the univ and she brought it home to show us kids....

we had NO idea what was to come...did we


( i dont know the history of the calculator or what year this was exactly or how special it was or not for her to have this)

and the actual size, as I recall, was probably 12 by 12 inches, maybe bigger but compared to now and as I recall its ability was quite limited as well

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the 3g for internet is very slow...i dont use the iphone on the fly on the net enough for it to matter, yet, but when I am on vacation or out of town I plan to and that slow speed will suck

the overall life we live today compared to when I was a kid, wow

i have told this story before, when I was about 12 yrs old, maybe 10, my neighbor friends mom was a professor at the local State University, mid 60's, one night (i was ALWAYS at their house on friday and sat nights) before we fired up Star Trek, she brought in this suitcase sized device that she called a "calculator" i will never forget it, it was the property of the univ and she brought it home to show us kids....

we had NO idea what was to come...did we

( i dont know the history of the calculator or what year this was exactly or how special it was or not for her to have this)

and the actual size, as I recall, was probably 12 by 12 inches, maybe bigger but compared to now and as I recall its ability was quite limited as well


Pretty amazing isn't it? One of the jobs I had in college was as a draftsman. In those days, drafting rooms were brightly lit, huge, and contained several rows of large drafting tables lined up two abreast. One of the things that I had to share with the other guys was this amazing machine that would add or subtract feet and inches, including fractions of inches. It had about a gazillion buttons on it and it printed on paper tape. Apparently, they were so expensive that they could only afford a couple of them for the whole office. Now, there is no need for anything like that because a computer will not only make your drawing for you but it will do all the calculations as well. Just in case though, until I retired, I carried a small calculator that cost about ten dollars that would do everything that big old machine could do plus a whole lot more.



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I'm waiting for the iPhone 5 to renew my contract....love my iPhone 4...not so excited about the 4S and have heard Siri isn't that great. In the Fall is what I have heard, for a launch.

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i'm going to wait

hoping for the 4 inch screen with 8 mp photo

4 inch screen is going to be nice (i hope) like the new generation itouch but different. elongated

and 'm pretty sure i already love siri :)



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iPhone Users Are About to Be Screwed Over


There has been a lot of talk about the addition of an NFC (near field communication) chip to the next-gen iPhone. This will allow the phone to be used as a swipe-it-yourself credit card. I consider this technology to be the most onerous ever.

I first discussed the idea of your mobile phone becoming your credit card in the mid-1990s and was just biding my time before it came to pass. Bluetooth was invented in 1994 and gave rise to a lot of speculation regarding its usefulness. For a few years, all sorts of futuristic uses were imagined and a serious discussion of the so-called PAN (personal area network) began, but never went anywhere.

The PAN, spurred on by Bluetooth, would allow you to walk down the street and be told about sales, bargains, events and other nonsense from nearby stores and museums. You'd walk into Walmart and your name would be displayed a computerized sign to greet you as an old man pointed at the sign and then pointed at you in some creepy manner.

When you checked out, the Bluetooth device would take care of the payment accounting, and you'd never use cash again. This process could easily be mobile phone centric.

Over the years, through what I consider incompetent marketing, Bluetooth was relegated for use as a wireless earpiece technology and not much else. The PAN was dead as a doornail and my take on the phone as a credit card fell by the wayside. For the moment.

But good ideas can't be killed. But this "good idea" isn't about the convenience of paying with a phone swipe, but the idea of running your tab through the phone company. If you think your banker is a gouger with dubious fees and no-leeway, what do you think the phone company will be like? Yes, let AT&T handle all your money for you, and see how that works out in the end.

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U.S. Sues AT&T Over Hearing-Impaired Call Service Fraud



US Justice Department lawsuit alleges that AT&T knowingly collected millions of dollars for calls that were actually placed by Nigerian scam artists ...


http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2402045,00.asp

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There has been a lot of talk about the addition of an NFC (near field communication) chip to the next-gen iPhone. This will allow the phone to be used as a swipe-it-yourself credit card. I consider this technology to be the most onerous ever.

I first discussed the idea of your mobile phone becoming your credit card in the mid-1990s and was just biding my time before it came to pass. Bluetooth was invented in 1994 and gave rise to a lot of speculation regarding its usefulness. For a few years, all sorts of futuristic uses were imagined and a serious discussion of the so-called PAN (personal area network) began, but never went anywhere.

The PAN, spurred on by Bluetooth, would allow you to walk down the street and be told about sales, bargains, events and other nonsense from nearby stores and museums. You'd walk into Walmart and your name would be displayed a computerized sign to greet you as an old man pointed at the sign and then pointed at you in some creepy manner.

When you checked out, the Bluetooth device would take care of the payment accounting, and you'd never use cash again. This process could easily be mobile phone centric.

Over the years, through what I consider incompetent marketing, Bluetooth was relegated for use as a wireless earpiece technology and not much else. The PAN was dead as a doornail and my take on the phone as a credit card fell by the wayside. For the moment.

But good ideas can't be killed. But this "good idea" isn't about the convenience of paying with a phone swipe, but the idea of running your tab through the phone company. If you think your banker is a gouger with dubious fees and no-leeway, what do you think the phone company will be like? Yes, let AT&T handle all your money for you, and see how that works out in the end.

more

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A ... -R0kC0pqRA



U.S. Sues AT&T Over Hearing-Impaired Call Service Fraud



US Justice Department lawsuit alleges that AT&T knowingly collected millions of dollars for calls that were actually placed by Nigerian scam artists ...


http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2402045,00.asp

Actually, there is a functioning system of using your phone as a way to pay bills, transfer money, do banking. It's in Africa of all places. It's called M-Pesa.

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The system was developed and ran by Sagentia from initial development to the 6 million customer mark. The pilot project was joint funded by the UK government Department for International Development (DFID) and Vodafone’s Kenyan affiliate Safricomm in 2003–2006 and commercially launched in 2007.[1][2]

The pilot was first used to disburse loans from Faulu (a Kenyan microfinance agency) to its clients and collect repayments. Additionally clients could deposit and withdraw cash from authorized M-PESA agents, make person-to-person (P2P) money transfers, purchase airtime for re-sale or personal use.

The service has now been transitioned to be operationally run by IBM Global Services on behalf of Vodafone. The initial 3 markets (Kenya, Tanzania & Afghanistan) are hosted between Rackspace and Vodafone.[citation needed]
[edit] Concept

The initial concept of M-Pesa was to create a service which allowed microfinance borrowers to conveniently receive and repay loans using the network of Safaricom airtime resellers.[3] This would enable microfinance institutions (MFIs) to offer more competitive loan rates to their users, as there is a reduced cost of dealing in cash. The users of the service would gain through being able to track their finances more easily. But when the service was trialled, customers adopted the service for a variety of alternative uses and complications arose with Faulu, the partnering MFI. M-Pesa was re-focused and launched with a different value proposition: sending remittances home across the country and making payments.[3]

M-Pesa is a branchless banking service, meaning that it is designed to enable users to complete basic banking transactions without the need to visit a bank branch.[4] The continuing success of M-Pesa in Kenya has been due to the creation of a highly popular, affordable payment service with only limited involvement of a bank.[5][6]
[edit] Services

M-Pesa Customers can deposit and withdraw money from a network of agents that includes airtime resellers and retail outlets acting as banking agents. M-Pesa is operated by Safaricom, a Mobile network operator (MNO), which is not classed as a deposit-taking institution (such as a bank). Therefore, M-Pesa may not be advertised as a banking service.[citation needed]

The service enables its users to:

Deposit and withdraw money
Transfer money to other users and non-users
Pay bills
Purchase airtime[7][8]

The user interface technology of M-Pesa differs between Safaricom of Kenya and Vodacom of Tanzania, although the underlying platform is the same. While Safaricom uses SIM toolkit to provide handset menus for accessing the service, Vodacom relies on USSD to provide users with menus.[9]

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Afghanistan

In 2008 Vodafone partnered with Roshan, Afghanistan's primary mobile operator, to provide M-Paisa, the local brand of the service.[17][18] When the service was launched in Afghanistan, it was initially used to pay policemen's salary, which was set to be competitive with what the Taliban were earning. Soon after the product was launched, the Afghan National Police found that under the previous cash model, 10% of their workforce were ghost police officers who did not exist; their salaries had been pocketed by others. When corrected in the new system, many police officers believed that they had received a raise or that there had been a mistake, as their salaries rose significantly. The National Police discovered that there was so much corruption when payments had been made using the previous model that the policemen didn't know their true salary. The service has been so successful that it has been expanded to include limited merchant payments, peer-to-peer transfers, loan disbursements and payments.[19]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-Pesa

Link to CBC audio story on M-Pesa:
http://www.cbc.ca/spark/2012/02/repeat-of-spark-151-february-16-29-2012/

Just for the record, I have a cell phone, but it's not a smart phone. It's a Samsung made in South Korea. I can make phone calls with it, in theory text, I use it to make memos to myself, and I can put MP3s on it. That's about it.

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I consider this technology to be the most onerous ever.


The PAN, spurred on by Bluetooth, would allow you to walk down the street and be told about sales, bargains, events and other nonsense from nearby stores and museums. You'd walk into Walmart and your name would be displayed a computerized sign to greet you as an old man pointed at the sign and then pointed at you in some creepy manner.

When you checked out, the Bluetooth device would take care of the payment accounting, and you'd never use cash again. This process could easily be mobile phone centric.

But good ideas can't be killed. But this "good idea" isn't about the convenience of paying with a phone swipe, but the idea of running your tab through the phone company. If you think your banker is a gouger with dubious fees and no-leeway, what do you think the phone company will be like? Yes, let AT&T handle all your money for you, and see how that works out in the end.

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Actually, there is a functioning system of using your phone as a way to pay bills, transfer money, do banking. It's in Africa of all places. It's called M-Pesa.

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Just for the record, I have a cell phone, but it's not a smart phone. It's a Samsung made in South Korea. I can make phone calls with it, in theory text, I use it to make memos to myself, and I can put MP3s on it. That's about it.[/quote]


No doubt the technology is out there but as the PC Mag writer asks; Do we want it. I say no, not for me thanks.........

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I love speculating about products before they're released.

It keeps the Mac rumors sites in business ... people love to speculate.

And then the actual product comes out with none of the features people were speculating about.

It's really funny to see their disappointment, because Apple never once said those features would be there; they were basing their hopes on other peoples' speculations.

Dunno, I guess I'll discuss the hypothetical PAN feature of the iPhone 5 if it comes out and actually has it; until it's released, we have no idea.

I think it's likely to be Apple's first "true" 4G network phone - but then honestly we won't know that until it's released, either.

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Seeker1; I think you and I are on two planes here.

I'm with the writer in saying enough is enough about the invasion of privacy and to let the technology get to the point of where the banks are controlling everything through my phone and the walmart will identify you as you walk through the door is going to far.

I think you are talking a little more about the tech side and whether it will happen, which I suspect it will, or even does exist, but I don't want it...............

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